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Post by yallthehaters on Nov 30, 2011 16:43:57 GMT -5
Why do we get so little numbers for nets, lucky the juniors turn up otherwise you wouldn't have a club. If people don't turn up for nets, put them in the seconds. If players cant turn up because of work put nets on a Saturday when games should be.
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Post by Law 42 on Dec 2, 2011 2:45:37 GMT -5
It's difficult to get motivated for nets in November,
Lots of clubs don't start nets until Feb/March for seniors (& some for all ages although there is a case for keeping the kids going as they have so much development to work on).
A decent break gives people the chance to miss their cricket & if they start a few weeks before the season then there's a goal to aim for in terms of fitness, technique, etc.
The key is to keep the club together when you're not actually playing, and this includes during the season. The fact that there has never been an opportunity since the club's formation for both teams to sit down with the opposition after the game and talk about the games & cricket in general is the biggest issue in the future sustainability of cricket in Tredegar.
How many former players & their families are still involved & come along after games on a Saturday for a drink & a chat? How easy is it for them to do so if they wanted do?
Unfortunately the current setup isn't very welcoming or conducive to building a sustainable culture as it doesn't enable the major activity that keeps clubs together - the ability for all to socialise together regularly and share their stories, experiences, etc.
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Post by leathers on Dec 9, 2011 12:47:41 GMT -5
I disagree that its difficult to get motivated in november because if you were going to the gym you wouldnt just turn up in january then not again until june the more you do something the better you get at it and the easier it becomes.
I totally agree with u on keeping the club going whilst not playing this has been tried and events off the field have been organised only for members of the club to choose to ignore messages, phone calls and texts leading to the event being cancelled.
In my experience once players have stopped playing they and thier families tend to find something else to do on weekends not hang around a freezing cold recreation ground where there are no facilites for them to use, but the bush still welcomes families to go the club at anytime or would a change of club be welcomed??
As for the club not being very welcoming i totally disagree i for 1 try to welcome everyone and encourge their return wether playing or socialising maybe others are not the same wouldnt speak on thier behalf thou!!
Nice to see someone creating a few posts on here for a open discussion like to see more people using it
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Post by Law 42 on Dec 10, 2011 11:55:18 GMT -5
I think there's a difference between going to the gym & nets. Nets are practice for "proper" cricket whereas the gym is an end in itself. Also at the gym you have control over when you go and what you do, nets is more of a team environment and you're governed by what others want to do and necessarily have to wait your turn.
There's an argument that playing indoor league cricket in the winter may get more support as you are being competitive within a team dynamic (has this been considered?).
Also, I wonder how many of the current players go to the gym every week 12 months a year.
The comment about families doing other things on a Saturday afternoon is not what I meant, it's more about the environment the club creates to attract them and what they do with them when they're there.
I think the people at the Bush are indeed very welcoming, the physical environment of the and the approach of the cricket club isn't.
There's little point going there to talk to people and hear about the games as from 9pm you can't have a conversation because there's an artist on, normally one that confuses talent with volume.
It's a simple matter of architecture, the Bush is not conducive to a team environment on a Saturday night and I don't see how that can be changed.
An undeniable fact is that the rugby club's layout offered far more options and is a lot more accommodating to the culture I think that's holding the club back. When the club(s) were based there cricket based conversations and mixed groups happened without any prompting and were usually entertaining.
The other aspect is that on too many occasions the language and attitude of certain people is more akin to a pub football team than a cricket club. Free jugs only exacerbate the situation. I also wonder whether the 1st team's ranking in the fair play league is an indication that the team is playing within the laws rather than the spirit of the game, which is why a lot of people are attracted to the game & particular clubs. We don't seem to have any limits of acceptable behaviour, other clubs certainly do.
If I were to ask people what the values and principles of the club are I'm guessing I would be met with a significant number of blank stares.
The combination of the above is in my view leading to a situation where people only turn up to play and then have no desire to engage in the after-match stuff that keeps a club together. My other half has no desire to go to the Bush on a Saturday night as it's a not particularly comfortable environment. Thinking about it, how many WAGs (!!) and, more importantly, Mothers & Fathers of youngsters come along?
It's nothing against those at the Bush, it's just not an environment that is attractive to a cricket culture.
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Post by robhulse on Dec 11, 2011 7:25:42 GMT -5
Mr 42 you  make me laff, you have nothing at all to do with the running of the club yet you have most to say.Start paying you cons and your arguments and views may hold a little morewater. P S Dennis is a legend. |
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Post by Law 42 on Dec 12, 2011 2:22:14 GMT -5
I wasn't aware that only certain people are entitled to opinions. If that's the case then maybe the forum should only be open to those people.
However, judging by the amount of people using this forum I would have thought that all views (particularly if they are constructive rather than just slagging people off) would have been welcomed - clearly I was wrong.
You also left out the space between leg and end in your final comment.
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Post by robhulse on Dec 12, 2011 10:03:45 GMT -5
Oooh, Mr 42 put them away,just making a valid point that if you stump up your cons and become a member of T C C, then your views and opinions of which of coarse you are entitled too, would maybe be taken on board.Watch you dont get your Hampton Court on the Anne Boleyn alley.
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Post by Law 42 on Dec 12, 2011 12:57:40 GMT -5
Not got them out at all, just trying to provide some constructive criticism.
I notice you don't comment on the content of my earlier post, just its context.
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Post by robhulse on Dec 13, 2011 11:36:23 GMT -5
Oooh Mr 42 just remember the money is for both dances.Apparantly one of your points about moving away from The Bush to a new base has been discussed, I ,suggest The Top House, anyone else got any thoughts.
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Post by Rob M on Dec 13, 2011 14:27:06 GMT -5
And in what way would the club benefit from going to the Top House?
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Post by robhulse on Dec 14, 2011 15:58:40 GMT -5
exercise old boy
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make me laff, you have nothing at all to do with the running of the club yet you have most to say.Start paying you cons and your arguments and views may hold a little morewater. P S Dennis is a legend. 
